the lineup to pickup passengers at Kitchener Airport

Canadian Flights

A story about our flights from Ontario to Calgary and back on Flair Airlines, and some thoughts about Westjet and customer service. (and an update!)

We’ve been staying out of crowded places for the longest time, but we decided it was time to travel again. With only about two weeks of planning, we booked a flight from Southern Ontario to Calgary Alberta to visit one of our kids. We visited all the usual travel websites – looking for a “deal” as well as convenient flight times and locations.

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Westjet Customer Service

In the old days we would book Air Canada, and sometimes Air Transat. After a few years we fell in love with the friendlier customer service offered by Westjet employees and their competitive flight pricing. We remember one year the President of Westjet sitting in a middle seat (if you can believe that) a few rows ahead of us. Apparently that was how he regularly travelled – right there with the customers to see what was going on. He resigned or retired back in 2018 or so, and it seems like the culture of Westjet has changed since then.

In 2019 Westjet was purchased by Onex, a private equity company – but before that about 19% of Westjet shares were owned by employees. More than 80% of employees owned shares in Westjet, and the employees helpfulness possibly reflected their ownership pride at the time.

former WEstjet CEo Gregg Saretsky
Former Westjet CEO Gregg Saretsky

Booking another Flight – Calgary to Fort St. John

Around the same time as I was booking our own flights west – I helped one son book a trip from Calgary to Fort St. John B.C. I again hemmed and hawed and checked all the travel websites, but in the end – as he was travelling to a smaller location – I had to choose between Air Canada and Westjet – which had very similar pricing and flights. I chose Westjet flights, finding the lowest flight and the most convenient arrival and departure times – but my choice could have just as easily been Air Canada if I had booked for another time. My Westjet loyalty has faded.

There have been a few times over the recent few years where flights have been cancelled or delayed and the customer service desk has closed down – or the phone lines are too busy to help.

For example the other day I called to ask a specific question about flight pricing changes – the hold time was – almost – 33 minutes!

Westjet phone wait-time
Westjet phone wait-time

Answer the Phone Please

Somewhere in the middle of the on hold message I heard something like “Respectful behaviour is expected of our agents and appreciated in return. Thank you for you patience and kindness”. Now the thing is, I am always polite and kind to customer service personnel, so I find this type of message – no matter how well written to be offensive. These messages are all too common these days when customers are expected to wait on hold for an unreasonable amount of time.

I am aware that there is an option to get a returned call – which is a very good thing, and they have what is called online Live Chat through social media – but this is not really live either. Here’s part of my Twitter live Chat….

Twitter Westjet live chat

So I know, complain, complain – I try not to be negative and 33 minutes on hold isn’t really a long time – but it is. We’ve gotten so used to waiting on hold for customer service that it’s the norm and we have to be told to be polite.

I’ve had similar long on hold (and much much longer) experiences with other major airlines, so I know it’s not just one airline – but this is becoming a normal thing. PLEASE PICK UP THE PHONE!

Flair from Kitchener Waterloo to Calgary and Return

Competitive Pricing

For our trip to Calgary we ended up booking a Flair Airlines flight for the first time. It’s a newer airline, and has flights as low as $59 each way between Calgary and Kitchener/Waterloo. I believe we ended up paying about $580 or so for two round trips when we added in one carryon each way and 4 seats – but this is a pretty good deal for not too much advance planning.

For people who aren’t from Canada – there is less competition in booking flights, because we’ve historically had fewer airlines – so without booking way in advance, we often see one way flights of $600-800 for Toronto to Calgary. So $580 round trip may not seem like such a great deal – but it’s quite reasonable. Whether or not we choose these new discount airlines, I think they help to keep the price of the other carriers lower. Newer discount airlines include Swoop, Porter, Lynx and Canada Jetlines.

However (update) – we recently booked another set of round-trip flights to Orlando with Flair – and on the way home – Flair had it’s airplanes repossessed for non-payment of its leases – and cancelled the flights abruptly. We have been back and forth with Flair ever since – but we found our own way home on Lynx Air! Dealing with Flair customer service has been super annoying – the nice people trying to rearrange our flights in were outsourced in the Philippines and seemed unable to understand North American airport geography……..

Airports

We regularly hear what a great airport Toronto Pearson is. It’s Ontario’s main international airport. Here’s an example of a news release:

Toronto Pearson has been named “Best Large Airport in North America serving more than 40 million passengers” for five years in a row by Airports Council International (ACI), the global trade representative of the world’s airports. 

Cision – Newswire March 10, 2022

We always laugh at these glowing reports. Who writes this stuff, we wonder?

According to the J.D. Power 2022 North America Airport Satisfaction StudySM (Based on a 1,000-point scale), Toronto Pearson Airport was the fifth lowest scoring of Mega Airports, and sixth lowest when Medium, Large and Mega Airports were combined.

We don’t need surveys to tell us that if you go through Toronto Pearson airport, you will wait in line, and that’s never good. It’s just busy. So if we can we try to book flights out of smaller regional airports – like Hamilton, Kitchener-Waterloo and London Ontario. These airports typically have fewer flights – but have a few to Canadian destinations – and even to a few southern vacation spots. It’s also easier to pick up and drop off passengers from these airports.

the lineup to pickup passengers at Kitchener Airport
The lineup to pickup a passenger at Kitchener-Waterloo airport – (3 cars and a bus)
passengers disembark
plane
Passengers disembark plane Kitchener-Waterloo airport
Pylons at Pearson Airport pickup (nothing says stay away like pylons and security)
Proceed to Cell Phone Waiting area at Pearson airport

While we were told to arrive at the airport 3 hours before our flight – we arrived 1.5 hours pre-flight – lined up behind 3 other people at check-in and then spent less than 10 minutes going through security. The thing is – EVERYBODY smiled at checkin – in security and when boarding the plane. We also found everybody smiling at Calgary International Airport -even though it’s larger and busier!

Seats

We paid $15 per seat each way for a larger Emergency Exit seat – and this gave us loads more leg room – and priority boarding. The planes were fairly full, – on the way to Calgary we had the row to ourselves. On the way back I sat next to a very large man (who really needed the larger seat – so I don’t fault him), who unfortunately was a bit of a noisy snorer!

Customer Service

One of the negatives to flying Flair, at least from my old person point of view, is that you are expected to print out or download your boarding passes at home. If we did not – that would add another $25 each person each way to the cost. So I thought, why not, I can print out my boarding passes – can’t I? So I did – and things were a little glitchy. Only one of my passes printed out. So I called Flair – and guess what? They picked up the phone and answered right away! In fact, I called again because I had another question – and they answered the phone right away. As per the boarding pass, they said no problem – just come to the check-in -no charge – we’ll be happy to help you – and they did.

For the flight home I had downloaded our boarding passes – and everything worked. I don’t like carrying information around on my cell phone – but I did.

UPDATE – Just a few months later, although Flair still answers the phone or gives a callback – the customer service people that I speak to seem to be in the Philippines and have a lot of confusion about where airports are.

Flights

The flights were comfortable and uneventful, and the planes were fairly new and not too worn inside. On the way home we had windy weather and the pilot said something before landing about the crosswinds. My husband said to me – “oh I think that means they have to come in at a higher speed” (just making conversation – no inside info here). We landed safely but seemed to brake harder than I remembered from previous flights (maybe we just hadn’t been flying for the longest time). We were thinking isn’t that great the runway is surrounded by farmers’ fields, just in case they need more landing room.

We were off our plane and back home in a jiffy having enjoyed our Flair experience.

But then, three days later a similar flight arriving at Kitchener Waterloo, braked hard and went off the runway. Nobody was seriously hurt, but we wait to hear if they’ve figured out what went wrong – and how not to do that again.! Thank goodness for the field at the end of the runway.

https://www.cp24.com/news/flair-airlines-passenger-speaks-about-rough-landing-that-saw-plane-exit-the-runway-in-waterloo-1.6168477

Twitter about Flair Kitchener runway incident.

We enjoyed our short trip to Calgary, and enjoyed the flight and Customer Service from Flair, and the staff at Kitchener Waterloo and Calgary airports. Just when we thought we had everything figured out about how to book flights in Canada, we had something else to think and fret about! I hope that this review of our Flair trip has been helpful. Happy trails everyone.

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15 thoughts on “Canadian Flights

  1. I still remember when flying was an enjoyable experience. While I didn’t have the honour of flying on a Ward Air flight, I did fly Air Canada and would get a free small bottle of wine with the meal. Of course, that was pre 911. Things have certainly changed. Someday somebody is going to realize that they can make a fortune by making flying fun again. I’m looking forward to that, even though it may cost a little bit more. It would be worth it just to have enough leg room and a bit of distance from the guy who snores.

    1. My daughter just arrived from Amsterdam on KLM, and although she was sandwiched between 2 large men, she said the flight attendants were handing out free wine left, right and centre, and were quite helpful. I’d just be happy with smiling people and legroom.

  2. Enjoyed the story. Just travelled on two airlines this month… Japan Airlines – superb – Qantas – sadly lacking and past its glory days. I’ll be writing about the experience and my Japan trip as soon as I unpack and go through my 4,000 plus photos LOL

  3. Airline travel these days is a crapshoot. We will wait a bit before getting on an airplane again, for many different reasons. I miss the good old days when customer service was a real thing. Allan

    1. It was time for us to get going again, so we finally booked a trip, without much planning as usual. We wore masks on the plane, but just one flight attendant did – and none of the passengers wore them. It’s sad that I’m grateful when someone picks up the phone these days!

  4. 33 mins isn’t bad – we got caught up in the big Westjet IT issue 3 weeks ago and waited on hold for 6 hours (also stood in line at the airport during this time). In the end we didn’t get our warm trip and still waiting to see what we get for our expenses and compensation.
    Yes in Canada there hasn’t been much competition–shall see how these new airlines work out. Bernie

    1. Oh no Bernie, that’s terrible – but not surprising these days. I’m sorry you missed your trip. My 33 minute wait was just on an ordinary good weather weekday – they just don’t have enough people on the best of days.

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